John II TALBOT, Earl Of Shrewsbury[1, 2, 3]

Male 1413 - 1460  (46 years)


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  • Name John II TALBOT  [4, 5, 6, 7, 8
    Suffix Earl Of Shrewsbury 
    Born 12 Dec 1413  Shrewsbury Abbey, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4, 5, 6, 7, 8
    Gender Male 
    Earl of Shrewsbury , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6, 9, 10
    Died 10 Jul 1460  Battle Of Northampton, Northamptonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4, 5, 6, 7, 8
    Buried Worksop Priory, Nottinghamshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I8068  Carney Genealogy
    Last Modified 5 Jan 2006 

    Father Sir. John TALBOT, Knight,   b. Abt 1384, <, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England> Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 Jul 1453, Battle Of Castillon, Bordeaux, France (Killed) Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 69 years) 
    Mother Maude De NEVILLE, 6th Baroness Furnival,   b. Abt 1391, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1423, Worksop Priory, Nottinghamshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 32 years) 
    Married Bef 8 Mar 1406-1407  , , , England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4, 6, 11
    Alt. Marriage Bef 12 Mar 1406-1407  [12, 13, 14, 15
    Alt. Marriage 
    Notes 
    Alt. Marriage:
    • 1st wife
    Family ID F3852  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Elizabeth BUTLER,   b. 1420, Kilkenny Castle, Kildare, Leinster, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Sep 1473, Shrewsbury Abbey, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 53 years) 
    Married Bef Mar 1445  , Ormond, Leinster, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  [4, 6, 7, 16, 17
    Children 
     1. Anne TALBOT,   b. Abt 1445, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 May 1494  (Age ~ 49 years)
     2. John TALBOT,   b. 12 Dec 1448, , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Jun 1473, , Coventry, Warwick, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 24 years)
     3. James TALBOT,   b. Abt 1450, , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     4. Christopher TALBOT,   b. Abt 1454, , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     5. George TALBOT,   b. Abt 1456, , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     6. Margaret TALBOT,   b. Abt 1460, , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 29 Aug 2016 
    Family ID F4056  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Sir John Talbot, KG, b. 1413, d. 10 July 1460, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, Lord Treasurer of England; m. c 1444-48, Elizabeth Butler, b. 1420, d. 8 Sep 1473. [Ancestral Roots]

      Note: Marriage date is off--doesn't agree with 7-34, which is on the opposite page, nor with CP.

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      EARLDOM OF SHREWSBURY (V, 2)

      JOHN (TALBOT), EARL OF SHREWSBURY, LORD TALBOT, &c., also EARL OF WATERFORD [IRL], 1st son and heir by 1st wife; born about 1413; K.B. 19 May 1426, at Leicester; served in France 1434 and 1442; on the Commission of the Peace, co. Derby, 23 November 1441; co. York (West Riding) 16 March 1441/ 2; Herts, 18 May 1443; Notts, 27 November 1443; King's Knight, before 27 May 1443; Chancellor of Ireland, 12 August 1446; Commissioner to treat for a loan to maintain the war, cos. Derby, Notts, Salop, 25 September 1449; Commissioner of Oyer and Terminer, Kent, 2 February 1449/50; P.C. before 21 November 1453; one of the Lords who undertook to keep the sea for 3 years, April 1454; Commissioner to raise money for the defence of Calais, 14 May 1455; summoned to Parliament 26 May 1455 to 26 May 1458; joint Farmer of the subsidy and alnage of cloths, co. and city of York and Kingston upon Hull, 5 August 1455. He was Treasurer of England 5 October 1456 till October 1458; nominated K.G. before 13 May, installed 14 May 1457; joint Keeper of the King's mews and falcons, 20 October 1457; Chief Butler for life, 6 May 1458; Chief justice of Chester, 24 February 1458/9; Steward of Wakefield 1459; Steward of Ludlow, 20 June 1460.

      He married, before March 1444/5, Elizabeth, daughter of James (BUTLER), 4th EARL OF ORMOND [IRL], by his 1st wife, Joan, daughter of William (BEAUCHAMP), LORD ABERGAVENNY. He died 10 July 1460, being slain (with his brother Sir Christopher Talbot) at the battle of Northampton, fighting on the Lancastrian side, and was buried (with his mother) in Worksop Priory. M.I. His widow appears to have intended to take the veil after his death, but she had a Royal licence to marry whom she pleased without impeachment or hindrance, 6 February 1463/4. She died 8 and was buried 11 September 1473, in Shrewsbury Abbey. M.I. [Complete Peerage XI:704-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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